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Cooper and Murphy at NASA Headquarters


               Significantly, every person involved with NASA in the movie is either a deceiver, or they have been
               deceived. The two main deceivers are the elder Dr. Brand, and one of the Lazarus Program leaders
               whose name is Dr. Mann. Cooper, as well as Dr. Brand’s daughter Amelia Brand who is a key
               member of the Lazarus Program, along with other astronauts, are deceived regarding the viability
               of the Lazarus Program. Dr. Brand and Dr. Mann engage in an enormous deception in order to gain
               the participation of other personnel in the program. Following is a portion of the transcript from the
               movie at the moment the deception is revealed. It begins with Cooper’s adult daughter Murphy
               informing Amelia Brand that her father has passed away. Murphy discloses that at his death Dr.
               Brand revealed the terrible lie he had kept concealed.


               Murphy: Brand did you know? He told you right? You knew? This was all a sham. You left us here.
               To suffocate. To starve. Did my father know too? Dad! I just want to know, if you left me here to
               die? I just have to know!
               Amelia Brand: Cooper, my father dedicated his whole life to plan A, I have no idea what she's
               talking about.
               Dr. Mann: I do.
               Cooper: He, he never even hoped to get the people off the Earth?
               Dr. Mann: No.
               Amelia Brand: But he has been trying to solve the gravity equation for 40 years.
               Dr. Mann: Amelia, your father solved his equation before I even left.
               Amelia Brand: Then why wouldn't he use it?
               Dr. Mann: The equation couldn't reconcile relativity with quantum mechanics. You need more...
               Cooper: More? More what?
               Dr. Mann: More data. You need to see into a black hole. The laws of nature prohibit a naked
               singularity.
               Cooper: Romilly, is that true?
               Romilly: If the black hole is an oyster, then the singularity is the pearl inside. The gravity is so
               strong that it is always hidden in darkness, beyond the horizon. That's why we call it a 'black' hole.
               Cooper: Okay, what if we see beyond the horizon?
               Dr. Mann: We can't Cooper. There are some things that aren't meant to be known. (Speaking to
               Amelia) Your father had to find another way to save the human race from extinction. Plan B, a
               colony.
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